Comments on: A brief visit to ICANN http://kierenmccarthy.com/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/ News and views on domain names, the Internet and life in general Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:11:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Online participation website for ICANN at kierenmccarthy.co.uk http://kierenmccarthy.com/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/comment-page-1/#comment-7817 Online participation website for ICANN at kierenmccarthy.co.uk Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:53:47 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/#comment-7817 [...] Paul was at the IGF in Athens last month and saw the site that Jeremy and I had done for the IGF in order to try to get some online interaction both by people that couldn’t be there and by those that were there. In fact, in retrospect, the whole thing dovetailed with a conversation I had had with Paul when I visited ICANN in Los Angeles on a whim two months ago. [...] [...] Paul was at the IGF in Athens last month and saw the site that Jeremy and I had done for the IGF in order to try to get some online interaction both by people that couldn’t be there and by those that were there. In fact, in retrospect, the whole thing dovetailed with a conversation I had had with Paul when I visited ICANN in Los Angeles on a whim two months ago. [...]

]]> By: A visit to ICANN in Second Life at kierenmccarthy.co.uk http://kierenmccarthy.com/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/comment-page-1/#comment-7816 A visit to ICANN in Second Life at kierenmccarthy.co.uk Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:05:30 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/#comment-7816 [...] Having visited ICANN’s headquarters in Los Angeles a month ago, I have finally got around to visiting the organisation’s virtual HQ in Second Life. [...] [...] Having visited ICANN’s headquarters in Los Angeles a month ago, I have finally got around to visiting the organisation’s virtual HQ in Second Life. [...]

]]> By: Kieren http://kierenmccarthy.com/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/comment-page-1/#comment-7815 Kieren Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:22:44 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/#comment-7815 There was a very good reason why I prevented comments on the Mac story. And you have neatly summarised why. Kieren There was a very good reason why I prevented comments on the Mac story. And you have neatly summarised why.

Kieren

]]> By: Matthew Smith http://kierenmccarthy.com/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/comment-page-1/#comment-7814 Matthew Smith Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:23:55 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/#comment-7814 Since comments are closed on your other post concerning Apple and security, I figured I'd post here. I don't think that you should be accusatory towards people based on their response to your article. If you read the main criticisms, they were based on the fact that your reporting was simply innacurate and/or incomplete. Your latest diatribe mentioning past security problems in Mac products is an attempt to distract people from this. If you had valid points based on verifiable facts, I'm sure you might get some "fanboy" hate mail, but you wouldn't be as widely criticized as you have been. At this point your attitude is similar to usenet trolling, IMHO. Feel free to read the link below if you want to see why you were criticized. It wasn't because everybody loves Apple so much. It's because they can't stand poor journalism. http://daringfireball.net/2006/09/jackass_kieren_mccarthy Yours, Matthew Since comments are closed on your other post concerning Apple and security, I figured I’d post here. I don’t think that you should be accusatory towards people based on their response to your article. If you read the main criticisms, they were based on the fact that your reporting was simply innacurate and/or incomplete. Your latest diatribe mentioning past security problems in Mac products is an attempt to distract people from this. If you had valid points based on verifiable facts, I’m sure you might get some “fanboy” hate mail, but you wouldn’t be as widely criticized as you have been. At this point your attitude is similar to usenet trolling, IMHO. Feel free to read the link below if you want to see why you were criticized. It wasn’t because everybody loves Apple so much. It’s because they can’t stand poor journalism.

http://daringfireball.net/2006/09/jackass_kieren_mccarthy

Yours,
Matthew

]]> By: Kieren http://kierenmccarthy.com/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/comment-page-1/#comment-7813 Kieren Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:26:51 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/#comment-7813 Hey Wendy, Do people really think the US government was behind ICANN being based in California? I'd always assumed people realised that California - rather than Washington or Virginia - was a big nod to its technical origins. I don't agree with your point about elsewhere but the US not having any impact though. The fact is that the US' incredibly litigious culture has done, and is doing, no end of damage to ICANN. And the most obvious example is the one thing that everyone is complaining about: the VeriSign dotcom (and dotnet) agreements. What a different situation that would have been if VeriSign didn't have the US courts to use a pressure point. Yours from a motel room with a moderate-sized window on North First Street in San Jose. Kieren Hey Wendy,

Do people really think the US government was behind ICANN being based in California? I’d always assumed people realised that California – rather than Washington or Virginia – was a big nod to its technical origins.

I don’t agree with your point about elsewhere but the US not having any impact though. The fact is that the US’ incredibly litigious culture has done, and is doing, no end of damage to ICANN. And the most obvious example is the one thing that everyone is complaining about: the VeriSign dotcom (and dotnet) agreements. What a different situation that would have been if VeriSign didn’t have the US courts to use a pressure point.

Yours from a motel room with a moderate-sized window on North First Street in San Jose.

Kieren

]]> By: Wendy Leibowitz http://kierenmccarthy.com/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/comment-page-1/#comment-7812 Wendy Leibowitz Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:59:49 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2006/10/04/a-brief-visit-to-icann/#comment-7812 You might want to explain why ICANN is located in California. It is, in large part, because much of the pioneering work in developing the Internet was conducted in California, under the leadership of Jon Postel, first a UCLA (where he worked on Arpanet) and then at the University of Southern California. Many people seem to think that the US captured the Internet and dragged it to California, kicking and screaming. They also assume that if ICANN were located elsewhere--anywhere but the US--things would be different and better. Why? As to driving in L.A.--you have my sympathies. As to not having a view of the marina--cry me a river. From a windowless newsroom, Wendy You might want to explain why ICANN is located in California. It is, in large part, because much of the pioneering work in developing the Internet was conducted in California, under the leadership of Jon Postel, first a UCLA (where he worked on Arpanet) and then at the University of Southern California. Many people seem to think that the US captured the Internet and dragged it to California, kicking and screaming. They also assume that if ICANN were located elsewhere–anywhere but the US–things would be different and better. Why?
As to driving in L.A.–you have my sympathies. As to not having a view of the marina–cry me a river.
From a windowless newsroom, Wendy

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